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Gamos
28 Mar 2005, 16:29
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The May 2005 issue of Computer Gaming World (http://cgw.1up.com/) magazine contains the first screenshots and information on the next, Unreal Engine 3 powered Unreal Tournament game, including incredible revelations about the massive new Conquest gametype.


The article refers to the game as "the next Unreal Tournament", suggesting that the game's full title is as yet undecided. Midway have previously confirmed that no new UT titles will be shipping in 2005, so it's likely that this game will bear the name "Unreal Tournament 2006" or "Unreal Tournament 2007". It's also possible that Epic have ditched the yearly naming convention altogether... only time will tell. Scans from the article currently doing the rounds on IRC show a silver and black Unreal 'U' logo on the magazine's cover, and a rather detailed Necris character standing outside next to some sort of vehicle on the first page of the article itself. Other screenshots reportedly include UE3-powered Malcolm, as well as next-gen versions of the Goliath tank, Scorpion buggy and armor concept art.


Details of the game are sketchy at the moment, however we can report that Epic programmer Steve Polge is the game's Lead Designer, with Jim Brown filling the role of Lead Level Designer. The article also tells of Epic's desire to put gameplay above graphics with the next UT, as demonstrated by the fact that the title's programming is currently "ahead" of its art.


Unfortunately we cannot post scans of the article here on BU (for fear of provoking the wrath of the killer zombie lawyer army of doom), so don't ask, however we will update this story with more information as it becomes available.


Update - 27 Mar 05 9:45PM EST by RaptoR: As promised, here are some more details from the article, courtesy of BU forumer placebo (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=156526) and drboom...

The next UT will feature 11 weapons. No specific details on these yet.
The game will focus on AI, specifically voice-controlled AI.
As with many UT2004 levels, the layout of maps in the next UT is being finalized before artwork is incorporated.
The game will feature a global ratings system that will allow clans to compare scores.
Gametypes include Onslaught, DM, TDM, CTF, and the all-new Conquest mode. No mention of Assault or Domination.
Further info on the Conquest gametype:

Features eight teams, each with unique armor.
Conquest maps are "potentially as large as three onslaught maps with assault-like objectives and even a form of limited resource management planned"
"there may be the option to treat a conquest match like a long term war, so you can play, take a break, and then go back and play more later"
"you can use your stats to find similarly abled opponents"
"pre-game lobbies" will be present in some form
"clan pages and other sites will be able to be viewed from within the game"
"conquest will take advantage of the Unreal Engine 3's ability to seamlessly stream maps by putting you in a battlefield the size of several maps stitched together"
"players will battle on one of two teams, each sides terriroty will look physically different, as you take a territory it will convert to the otherteams structures and physical surroundings"
"conquest should appeal to a wider gaming audience and provide a place where longer-term strategy, teamwork, and face-to-face fragging all meet"

http://raptor.me.uk/ut3_malcolm_sm.jpg (http://www.beyondunreal.com/image.php?src=staff/raptor/ut3_malcolm.jpg) Update - 28 Mar 05 9:40AM EST by RaptoR: Not directly related to the CGW article, however a high-resolution render of the Malcolm character from the next UT has surfaced on the Atari forums (http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=458765&perpage=30&pagenumber=4). We've mirrored it, and you can view it by clicking on the thumbnail to the right.


We'll bring you more as we get it.
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http://www.beyondunreal.com/staff/raptor/ut3_malcolm.jpg

|sAvAgE|
28 Mar 2005, 16:41
the conquest idea sounds alot (or VERY similar) to something the guys in the Onslaught section were throwing around as ideas for the next "ons ladder". *sigh* thats been lost though :(

11 weapons, i wonder what new weapons will b featured & what will be dropped.

the whole AI voice controlled thing i think is unnecessary, i mean its only use is when playing with bots right? if this is the next UT game, it'll only benefit you if u dont play online, and if u do play online u dont need it. the voice AI part would server a better purpose in a SP focused title, e.g the next Unreal game (not UT).

anyway, nothing to get too excited about, lets see what else pops up :)

<A>FluX.v2.0
28 Mar 2005, 17:03
conquest sound freaking WICKED

But Im sure they will still have ONS aswell if there are new versions of all our favourite vehicles.

|sAvAgE|
28 Mar 2005, 17:13
no man FluX, i was referring to the thread with the counquest-like proposal on the old forums :P

read the article, ONS is still there :)

[N]Haja
28 Mar 2005, 17:20
deleted, can't get pic to work yet :( (http://www.unreal.co.za/forums/image.php?u=7&type=profile&dateline=1112023185)

<A>FluX.v2.0
28 Mar 2005, 17:25
no man FluX, i was referring to the thread with the counquest-like proposal on the old forums :P

read the article, ONS is still there :)

Yea man I remember that, i am talking about what is in the article.

Shrimp
28 Mar 2005, 18:43
w00t w00t w00t w00t

Eish, sounds like a nice mix of MMORPG, Tribes and Onslaught :D


Give it to me nooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :(

<A>BioGizzard
28 Mar 2005, 18:47
man itsounds cool to me i hope it's not just a story....

p.s can sumone plz email me this malcolm pic it's taking forever to open here cause i'm capped
plz thx

Shrimp
28 Mar 2005, 18:49
Here you go...

|sAvAgE|
28 Mar 2005, 18:52
nice piece o' hardware. im hoping its NOT the bombing run ball carrier

Shrimp
28 Mar 2005, 18:59
I think it's the Flak Cannon...

|sAvAgE|
28 Mar 2005, 19:01
malcom must b prety n00b since he used an aiming reticule on his flak... :)

i duno, its like a cross between the rocket launcher + flak...

Elco
28 Mar 2005, 19:07
Midway ? What good have they produced lately?! :/

<A>BioGizzard
28 Mar 2005, 19:14
thx a mil shrimp...

if that's a flak cannon i'm in love again....:D

187<>Ceasar~
28 Mar 2005, 20:03
Looks like the flak allright.

EvilCow
28 Mar 2005, 20:29
malcom must b prety n00b since he used an aiming reticule on his flak...

some people do actually aim when playing UT.

Shrimp
28 Mar 2005, 21:03
:rofl:

|sAvAgE|
28 Mar 2005, 21:14
some people do actually aim when playing UT.
seriyaaaaaaaaas? :P :)

Macera
28 Mar 2005, 21:56
/me feels offended :/

EvilCow
28 Mar 2005, 22:07
shame

sneaky
28 Mar 2005, 22:15
Malcolm looks pretty old in 2006. I think he's just modeling the new weapons, he wont be able to play anymore.

EvilCow
28 Mar 2005, 22:18
he also looks like hes gained weight...

Gamos
28 Mar 2005, 23:01
Well, I for one would not mind whipping yo milky white ass with that model! :)

ProAsm
28 Mar 2005, 23:30
Conquest maps are "potentially as large as three onslaught maps LOL you gonna need at least a 2 mbit connection to download these maps.
Epic make me laugh, the say UT2Vote is not allowed to be greater than 600k else they will blacklist it as 56k modems will have a problem downloading it, yet they create enviroments where maps are huge.
Just playing Duke3d again and looking at a HUGE map of 400k http://www.unreal.co.za/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Gamos
29 Mar 2005, 00:02
Forget map sizes, I am worried about player numbers. Even stock standard ONS got a bit long winded with few players and had me personally quit most servers after a map or two, now they want a Onslaugh Uber Extreme?

If the community remains the size it is, Conquest will not work.

Now maybe if some of those CS:S and Battlefield junkies join. :)

Nautilian
29 Mar 2005, 00:30
Hmmmmm, Malcom looks a bit like Ripper aka Whoop_Ass, just a black man version :D :D :D

Naut

Elco
29 Mar 2005, 00:34
Ne re!

Nautilian
29 Mar 2005, 00:35
Kalispera Re Elco

EvilCow
29 Mar 2005, 00:56
Stop Talking About Me In Another Language!@#!#@#!@

Whoop_ass
29 Mar 2005, 07:30
Ne Re!!!
weirdos man!

Shrimp
29 Mar 2005, 09:33
Here are some scans from the article, showing off the new Scorpion, Goliath and a few characters: http://img13.exs.cx/gal.php?g=cgw1st5gb5bl.jpg

Here's some info someone posted on the BU forum:

according to the article:

Whats OUT in this version:

Skaarj Race
Bombing Run Gametype
Domination Gametype
Assault Gametype
Lightning Gun
Goo Gun
Assault Rifle
MiniGun
*also mentioned was they will tone down the "bouncy jumpy" Player Movement

Whats IN this version:

Onslaught Gametype
DM/TDM Gametype
CTF Gametype
Conquest Gametype
Rocket Launcher
Flak Cannon
Link Gun
Redeemer
Dual Enforcers *replaces assault rifle
Shock Rifle
AVRiL
Xloc
Sniper Rifle
Tridium Stinger *replaces minigun
Canister Gun (wip name) *Grenade launcher, Mine Layer & Goo Gun all in one.
9 vehicles from UT2k4 w/ a design makeover (scorpian now enclosed w/ rocket boosters and an ejection seat... kamakazi?)
9 new NECRIS vehicles
8 teams all with own specific armor

notes:
Malcolm is the represenitive character of the unreal franchise.
Kismet is in UnrealEngine3
Code name for UT3 is "Envy"

Thinice
29 Mar 2005, 10:03
Well now that looks amazing

DawEEd
29 Mar 2005, 10:09
I like the sound of the conquest gametype. rts and fps in 1.

I was about to get highly upset that the snot gun was removed, but it looks like they have another gun for snotting, so I'll be fine for now.

sneaky
29 Mar 2005, 10:16
HOLY SHIT, no Lightning Gun!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?! WTF are they smoking over there. Thats the bestest weapon ever.

DawEEd
29 Mar 2005, 10:18
Flup, I didn't realize that, was too interested inthe snot gun stuff. now that is bad.

Cataphract
29 Mar 2005, 10:27
What will Max do without the minigun? He'll be completely neutralised! And imagine Divexo without a Lightning Gun! Ah well, I'm sure they'll find new toys to become whores with.

Sliver
29 Mar 2005, 10:34
Forget map sizes, I am worried about player numbers. Even stock standard ONS got a bit long winded with few players and had me personally quit most servers after a map or two, now they want a Onslaugh Uber Extreme?

If the community remains the size it is, Conquest will not work.

Now maybe if some of those CS:S and Battlefield junkies join. :)

We never had an issue with this in tribes 2, we were always able to muster enough people to fill the maps. Hopefuly we will be able to pull some more tribes players across when this is released, especialy with the dismal happenings with TV.

<A>FluX.v2.0
29 Mar 2005, 10:41
max will start using the Tridium Stinger *replaces minigun* :p


could we please have this picture http://img13.exs.cx/gal.php?g=cgw1st5gb5bl.jpg put up locally?

I wanna see it so bad

and um .. who TF is Kismet

sneaky
29 Mar 2005, 10:56
"The Goliath Tank is back, and may have destructable treads this timae around"

Cataphract
29 Mar 2005, 12:15
Will it have a spare tread and a repair kit?

<A>FluX.v2.0
29 Mar 2005, 12:18
They better keep the damn spider mines ...
Need my freaking mines man.

Cataphract
29 Mar 2005, 12:33
Flux. I have unmasked you and your unholy spider army.

<A>BioGizzard
29 Mar 2005, 12:52
and if they think of removing the grenade launcher i'm gonna die

i hope they don't remove the dodging cause i can't play ut without it
no wait i won't play ut witout it :D

Whoop_ass
29 Mar 2005, 13:26
well thank god the rockets are still there......
OMW....
I woulkd be lost without them:D

camel
29 Mar 2005, 13:38
lol, for the lg whores, i'm sure the niper rifle will do it.
I'm quite happy to see the minigun go, but, why get rid of the snot gun, just increase the range ;)

Scrye
29 Mar 2005, 14:34
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA this sounds like the crappest game.

Ever.

VirtualForce
29 Mar 2005, 15:20
ok, thats all nice, I can make myself go one without the lightning gun...barely...but, I onder if they will intreduce rocket jumping!!! :p

sneaky
29 Mar 2005, 15:29
Please no.

Boogeyman
29 Mar 2005, 16:19
Excellent shit man!

Which means the clan wars will continue well into 2006 and beyond..

<A>FluX.v2.0
23 Apr 2005, 19:09
The new Mine Layer, Grenade Launcher, and BioRifle combo for ut2006.

http://www.beyondunreal.com/staff/raptor/uc2_dec04/full/Concept%20Art/10.jpg

Macera
23 Apr 2005, 19:30
I don'tthink i'm going to play UT2006. what a crap weapon selection, they are thinking about Team motives here, not Dueling or any seriouds business :/ I for one will NOT buy ut2006, 90% chance.

Macera
23 Apr 2005, 19:40
I know, let's make a petition, to get the lg back!

Gamos
23 Apr 2005, 19:53
I have a better plan. Let's make a petition to wait till we see the game before we ramble on about things like idiots. If we still want the lightning gun back by then, I'll gladly sign that petition. :)

Macera
23 Apr 2005, 19:55
Maybe in a patch then they can add the LG, although I doubt it, so we better do something before they release the game, maybe in the demo

Shrimp
23 Apr 2005, 20:34
That's from Unreal Championship 2.

<A>FluX.v2.0
23 Apr 2005, 20:38
Atari community idiots, my bad.

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=465116