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Ok - this is something that HIGHLY pisses me off.
I am not a person to go around randomly shouting accusations at people about cheating, but when it's confirmed that there has been cheating I won't stand for it and the cheaters must be shamed.
Ok, we've been playing a few clannies recently against Naja and ZT.
When we played Naja, we didn't do tooo badly in the TDM - of course the CTF we got whooped fair and square. GG WP
Now when we play ZT it feels like somethings out. Firstly - you all know Reds right? Well this guy NEVER plays online casually - i mean almost NEVER - and then when there's a clannie, Poof like Magic he appears.
Ok I had my hesitations and I didn't say anything. What got me thinking is that another member of ZT who HARDLY ever plays online anymore is Mia... and POOOF like magic he appears for the clannie and plays like a god.
Along with this, he's got the same name colors as Reds, which is NOT the regular ZT colors... and as you all know REDS is Manta's brother.
Ok so I have been mates with Mia for a long time and he confirmed with me that he never played in the clannie.. BUT his nickname was being used?
WTF? Sorry ZT SOME (not all) of you are bunch of spinless cheaters who get people like Manta to play in clannies for you. Manta - you're not such a Saint after all now are you?
I've always expected some foul play, and I could believe it from ZT but not from you Manta.
Using good players from other clans to substitute and pretend to be your members to gain unfair advantage in a clannie is CHEATING.
ZT did NOT win that clannie fairly - and it's sad that 1 or two people can add shame to their clan.
Haja, I'm sure Naja don't do this - and I respect you and your clan.
The screenies below highlight the confessions from Mia himself.
:banghead::smack::mad::(
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1829&stc=1&d=1171966870
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1830&stc=1&d=1171966882
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1831&stc=1&d=1171966894
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1826&stc=1&d=1171962332
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1827&stc=1&d=1171962355
And here a screenie of 1 game:
And from Mia in MSN:
Mia says (11:13):
yea i dont spell my name like that
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1828&stc=1&d=1171962883
War]-[eaD
20 Feb 2007, 11:26
YAR!!! This is a bit fucked!!! <o_O>
Anyone else got something to add? :(
AlienFromMars
20 Feb 2007, 11:51
oh well, not like anyone is going to do anything about it. But at least its in the open now.
I don’t believe that Draven, Syzyqy or Opiate would do such a thing, I believe its Gamma/Skitzo that gave the go ahead since it was him who did so before, as well as my judgment of his character.
K, I have no knowledge of this. So, what could I possibly add to this?
Right - I must apologise for blaming Manta.
As it turns out it was Rahzel who actually smurfed as Mia.
If this is how ZT want to conduct themselves (or the leader that is) then Vega will NOT be playing them again.
Imagine if we got people like Naut, Zero1 and Mburr to smurf for us.... how would you like it?
It takes the honesty out of the game, and it makes me NOT want to even participate in events like this.
Anyways
The lessons is here DONT CHEAT - play fair and HF !
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1833&stc=1&d=1171971445
AlienFromMars
20 Feb 2007, 13:39
Now that i think of it, its all so pointless and stupid, nothing will come of this. No one cares... all that will happen is people will throw emotions out on the forums, in the end, it will be forgotten. This is just negative entertainment. Totally pointless and lame.
Sigh - it's a negative subject I agree.
Although it's important.
I guess a simple apology is really what's needed.
ZT are a good clan and I wont take that from them, it's just this incident has left a bad taste for me.
Welll - i'm done with this..point's been made.
Cya
Eish this is fucked :/
Luckily you were able to get some solid proof
Cripple-X
20 Feb 2007, 14:30
Now that i think of it, its all so pointless and stupid, nothing will come of this. No one cares... all that will happen is people will throw emotions out on the forums, in the end, it will be forgotten. This is just negative entertainment. Totally pointless and lame.
Go read the SGS ROE Alien. If this is reported to SGS both will be banned, this is blatant cheating. There are no degrees to this, no such thing as cheating just a little bit! :mad: Should we just leave everyone to piss everything up as they please?
I really thought people were overreacting about cheating going on on the servers but now I wouldn't be surprised. I am very disappointed to say that I have just lost a lot of respect for the players involved.
Nevertheless, thank you Terror for pointing this out! :(
AlienFromMars
20 Feb 2007, 14:38
Well then Gamma should be banned. But will he? I very much doubt it.
SGT_Pepper
20 Feb 2007, 14:49
UT has a bad smell these day... cause i farted! Mmmmm woft in the flavour.
Dear Naut, Zero 1... we having a clannie soon. would u fill in for me? Can't make it but sure nobody will mind you playing for me.
Lotsa Love.
Sarge.
LOL ahaahhahahahahahahahhaah... it's all good man
peace.
Well... I didnt know of this. Sorry about this on behalf of my clan. This sure sucks. How much of an advantage rahz gave us I dont know. I am certain that rahz was not approuched because of his skill but becuase we where a player short. We hv more relaxed and patient tdm experts in our team such as Draven and Cbob. But I agree it is not the point. The better route would hv been to say that we are a player short and asked V if we could use rahz WITH permission. But ya... This is not looking good for ZT no matter what the motivation was.
@ Cripple according to the ROE on the SGS site he should be banned and if it is his first offense it should be one month, with css they really care how light you offense is i mean i was banned for saying "fakking nades" so all we need is to inform an admin?
AlienFromMars
20 Feb 2007, 15:04
"hope you havnt told any1" <--- HAHA wat a sly fox
Cripple-X
20 Feb 2007, 15:04
Well then Gamma should be banned. But will he? I very much doubt it.
Yeah, If someone reports them they WILL! But I don't feel the need for that. I'm just saying that Terror pointing this out to the community was definitely not "pointless and stupid" as you put it.
GM<Jaymac>MF
20 Feb 2007, 15:07
For once let's do what the SGS RoE suggests.
Cripple-X
20 Feb 2007, 15:09
@ Cripple according to the ROE on the SGS site he should be banned and if it is his first offense it should be one month, with css they really care how light you offense is i mean i was banned for saying "fakking nades" so all we need is to inform an admin?
Sorry, but they didn't only use another persons nick intently, which is the rule you're pointing out, but they used it to cheat in a clan match.
Anyway, the cheating is cheating part is my personal view, nothing to do with SGS.
=_sNaKe_=
20 Feb 2007, 15:13
So......who's going to piemp?
Agree with Opiate here, this is not looking good for the remaining ZT players that were not involved.
Gamma Ray
20 Feb 2007, 15:14
sorry?
lol,ok that might have been fucked up and i dont have any excuses,what i did was wrong and i knew it from the start,Plz guys dont take this out on any other ZT players,im the only one involved in this,and will take full responsibility may it be a ban or anything else,plz also note this was not a thing i did always it was only if we didnt have enough players for the clannie but still wrong
Sorry if i dissapointed any1
AlienFromMars
20 Feb 2007, 15:16
Agree with Opiate here, this is not looking good for the remaining ZT players that were not involved.
And whats worse is that the leader of the clan initiated it. He should be leading by good example, imho.
german_weasel
20 Feb 2007, 15:17
Seems like a good time to use this...
<colored_aunty_voice>
I'm very disappointed in you Gamma, Very disappointed!
</colored_aunty_voice>
Sorry if i dissapointed any1
Apology Accepted, now when we gonna play another clanny? :bounce:
This time full ZT team ;)
cYan1D3
20 Feb 2007, 16:39
Glad to see it is worked out, hopefully this won't happen again. So you cannot hire mercenaries to fight in your clan *sigh* I was hoping to become a merc it would've gave me tons of exp... :P
AlienFromMars
20 Feb 2007, 16:55
everything always has a happy ending :/
Dont worry. I still think your an idiot. :P
Cripple-X
20 Feb 2007, 18:24
Yeah?? .... shortage of players?? .... could someone please kindly explain to me who that is under spectators in that screenshot? I read |ZT|Syzygy//.
Gamma Ray
20 Feb 2007, 18:26
cripple syz came in on the last game 2 to 3 min before it ended
Cripple-X
20 Feb 2007, 18:28
Okay, guess all is fine then, as long as V are happy I'll shut up.
(Just have to add: This was said in sarcasm. :| )
LordScallyWag
20 Feb 2007, 21:19
I just love that they got caught.
Just catching up, been away all day..loving it.
/wonders how deep this runs....
has an inkling and thinks of the marianus trench
ZT, cmon guys, ur better than this....:( Sad sight to say the least...
oh for fucks sake...it's over with..
Yeah Draven, no harm done, ZT has always been good to me when i was in the Clan....so i have no grudges against them.....
ZT rawks. We even have humans in our clan.
I just love that they got caught.
Just catching up, been away all day..loving it.
/wonders how deep this runs....
has an inkling and thinks of the marianus trench
We where a player short and so to not cancel a fun clannie Gamma made the mistake by asking rahz to play without asking the permission. Post the screenies of the tdm maps so we can see if rahz made us win. The only trenches here are the ones in your own mind... Don' start looking for shit you won't find. I'm not trying to justify this but dont make it into sumthing it is not... Mmmmk? :rolleyes:
Jinx, I would have pimp slapped Manta, don't you worry. :)
Jeez... ppl dont read do they...
Is that in response to me Opi@te? I did read it wasn't Manta. Just saying...
Either way, there is quite a difference between being short a player and recruiting a freelancer for the match, and being short a player and comitting ID theft. :)
Anyway, Gamma and J1nx made their peace.
Glad to see this is all resolved so now who wants to duel me tonight ;)
The time is upon us .......... to all hold hands and sing kumbaya!!!
War]-[eaD
21 Feb 2007, 09:31
Kumbaya... <o_O>
Damn... my voice sux when I do this solo... come on... I need some backup! :P
k *AdV3nt backs up old WH* *they sing "kumbaya" arm in arm*
LOL @ the end of this thread.
Opiate/ Draven yes it's over........ slap your leader and make sure he doesn't fuck around like this again.
slayer676
21 Feb 2007, 12:59
bla bla bla
i love ut
bla bla bla
my 2c
ohhh "Kumbaya"
Gamma Ray
21 Feb 2007, 13:31
ZT has always been good to me when i was in the Clan.
I WISH WE WERNT
LOL that's why everyone leaves - it's because you're infact not.
Saint was just trying to be nice.
I WISH WE WERNT
Gamma, for your information, that post I made was not me , it was made by J1nx this morning since he used my pc and did not remember to log me out and sign in with his own name, so dont tune me shit for trying to be nice....its good to see the true colours coming out now.....
*sings along with slayer "kubaya my lord, kumbaya"*
Gamma Ray
21 Feb 2007, 14:29
well if i wernt nice with him im happy with myself then,or did he change clans becuase ull suck him off?well either way it all worked out great then, and were both happy arnt we.
Anyways its all over now
Gamma one thing is constant - you'll always be a cockend - even if you cheat or don't.
It's sad that such decent ppl in ZT have to be led by a wetspot like you.
War]-[eaD
21 Feb 2007, 16:07
Eisch... thank UT for Naja! ;) No politics or BULLSHIT in our clan.
hehe - nice Warthead - shows when you have a good leader...
slayer676
21 Feb 2007, 16:41
Gamma,
bla bla bla....its good to see the true colours coming out now.....
think i told you that once in a duel :)
/me wips out the guitar and brakes into a hyme
PS: sorry to terror for the spelling :P
well if i wernt nice with him im happy with myself then,or did he change clans becuase ull suck him off?well either way it all worked out great then, and were both happy arnt we.
WTF Gamma, how can u post such bullshit man? I changed clans coz i could SMELL the shit hitting the fan with ZT, no offence, but it was gonna happen sooner or later, i was asked and i said yes, but i did ALOT of thinking before i made the decison.....so please, dont come here making silly little comments, ive never done u any harm, if anyone here is to be put down its YOU!! You are in no position to throw around words like that gamma, so lets LEAVE the subject and MOVE on, ok, hows that??
Oh and one last thing, id like to apologise to slayer for when we spoke and i got a little grief from him accepting ZT, seems like what he said makes ALOT of sense right now which in turn is very convenient for me, good luck ZT...
ALL you people are starting to piss me off. This is UT. It's a game. Not fucking the Days of our Lives. No one gives a flying fuck about your personal opinions.
So please stop posting kak and play the fucking game. Grow up.
k, tx, fuck off, bi
http://unreal.co.za/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1833&stc=1&d=1171971445
And another thing, this was a post in ZT's private forums. Yet here it is for the whole world to see. I don't appreciate this type of thing either.
ALL you people are starting to piss me off.
LOL - chillax :)
PS: sorry to terror for the spelling :P
Anytime bro - misspell away :D
Hay Dagger, i Fking Hate you! :thumbsup:
ZT will kick Vegas any day any how any where any time! Easily! Just liek they did the 1st Clannie against Vegas! and i dont have a problem with Vegas, i just dont like you thats all!
this is their second clannie against you! i was present at the 1st clannie! Redz played so it was a fair and square Game.
Posting Private forum stuff is even worse in my eyes!
I'm tired of your attitude! Moan and Groan when things aren't going your way, but as long as you like it, no matter wot it is, its all cool!
Get a grip!
LOL slow down there manta mate.......what u saying there is uncalled for, people need to know the TRUTH....REGARDLESS of how its fished out....
And yes, ZT is OBVIOUSLY a stronger clan then Vega......so thats totally irrelevant, second of all, we are a brand new clan, we still getting to know each other, settle in, sort out individual player roles etc etc, so lets give it sometime and see what happens in the future....
No offence man, but lately....ur attitude has gone from manta to mediocre.....ur waaaay too full of urself....especially in terms on seeing urself in 3rd person when u post...cmon man, no go......
And theres no moaning and groaning here, at least someone put in the effort to clear things out...ur not even involved in this issue, so please, keep ur hatred( oh and while we on the subject, to HATE someone is a sin......read ur bible and live for what u claim to believe before u come and preach here) and comments to urself....
Preach here? i stopped that a long time ago but yup! Hating is a sin, I'm glad there still is people who believe that! but i still hate the oke!
Second i don't have a prob with Vega, its with Dagger! whom i knew since Piratez!
and its Manta, not manta! Mmkay?
Manta
Goosefraba! Goosefraba!
Relax gents. Move one.
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