View Full Version : Why you should not go to CTI
A lot of you guys might have some freindly advisors coming to you from cti
i have a warning for you do not listen to them.
They will tell you that they have a far higher pass rate than most universities.
Not entirely true.
First of all most people do pass their course eventually but they end up paying a fortune worth of a overrun contract.
They will tell you that their courses are up to date.
Dont listen. When I was still there last year they were still teaching redhat linux 8
They will tell you that they place over 80% of their students.
Again dont listen. I finished there 6 months ago and i am still looking for a job even though i was one of the the very few that passed with a distinction
I dont care what what the mods/admins do to me for this but i cannot let cti
rip even more people off and end up like me paying R48 000 for usless qualification
<A>FluX.v2.0
30 Jul 2006, 16:30
thanks !
Karnaugh
30 Jul 2006, 18:14
I dont care what what the mods/admins do to me for this but i cannot let cti
rip even more people off and end up like me paying R48 000 for usless qualification
Erm, I've never gone near CTI and I could have told you that before you wasted your money.
<A>BioGizzard
30 Jul 2006, 22:08
thank you, but never fear, just stick around here for another week and you'll be a wise ass in no time, free of charge
XUMXUM!!! finally someone who also gives a shit.
What did you study and what course are you following. In trying to do mcse/mcsa
Its R700 for a fucking hard exam. You need over 79.4% to pass and if you fail you need to pay another R700 to rewrite.
I mean wtf?
Peon
Karnaugh
31 Jul 2006, 06:38
Can't be that hard
GM<Jaymac>MF
31 Jul 2006, 09:53
There are a lot of USELESS private tertiary coleges out there, one has to be EXTREMELY careful whn they're going to part with the kind of money that many of these 'private' colleges demand.
My "favourite" place is the International Hotel School. Guys... if you think CTI is bad, you should see this place! You pay something like R40 000 a year, and attend like five months a year of useless classes where you get taught how to add and subtract, and how you shouldn't store meat and milk in the same container. You then spend the rest of the year working your ass off in hotels which actually own the school! In other words, you are paying them so that they can get FREE labour. Really, it's even worse than I'm making it out to be!
I'm studying at the University of Johannesburg (or RAU), but I know a couple of people that got dupped into the hotel school thing ;)
It makes me pretty mad!
/* Gets off soap box and breathes... breathes...
cyghost
31 Jul 2006, 10:02
What did you study and what course are you following. In trying to do mcse/mcsa
Its R700 for a fucking hard exam. You need over 79.4% to pass and if you fail you need to pay another R700 to rewrite.
I mean wtf?
Peon
peon m8 - do yourself a favor and get the latest testkings (you should be able to get them for free from someone ... not sure the ones I have are still valid)
but the questions are the same and if you go through one of those before your exam, you should be sweet ie know the answers without even really looking at the questions
Karnaugh
31 Jul 2006, 10:37
Universities are just as bad, you learn fuck all, pay hundreds of thousands of rands just to get your piece of paper.
Honestly, do yourself the biggest fucking favour of all and just learn it yourself, get a job, rack up some experience, fuck around with it at home, build your own bloody network. In the IT world paper qualifications are starting to mean less and less because the field is just far too diverse - more so than the medical world.
GM<Jaymac>MF
31 Jul 2006, 11:08
I agree, but I'm not studying IT.
In my field (economics, well, econometrics more specifically) the paper means just as much as the work experience. In fact, anything less then post graduate simply does not cut it in the field. Most senior economists have a Masters degree in economics! You simply cannot learn the stuff at home. In any case, my studies have cost less than R20 000 per year including books.
But I agree with you Karnaugh, in the IT field, everything comes down to experience. I mostly find that guys who don't study IT, and just try their own stuff at home are WAY (I mean, WAY) more skilled than those who study the stuff!
=_sNaKe_=
31 Jul 2006, 11:50
Agreed. I'm in the Multimedia field ( web design, programming, online media etc ) and I've landed a job doing ActionScript 2.0 and my interviewer wasn't so much interested in where I studied and what my marks were, so much as what I could actually do, which was cool. I guess since it's a more practical and hands-on field, theory won't get you nearly as far as a tangible product can ;)
Universities are just as bad, you learn fuck all, pay hundreds of thousands of rands just to get your piece of paper.
Honestly, do yourself the biggest fucking favour of all and just learn it yourself, get a job, rack up some experience, fuck around with it at home, build your own bloody network. In the IT world paper qualifications are starting to mean less and less because the field is just far too diverse - more so than the medical world. Well, that's fairly debatable. I went to CPUT and they taught us alot of general stuff that served as an excellent foundation, so it was up to us to choose what we wanted to specialize in and take it further from there on our own time. No course will fully prep you for industry 100%, but it does help to get some guidance. I just chose to take the best of both worlds.
Karnaugh
31 Jul 2006, 13:21
I was talking about IT. Not multimedia. Thats not IT.
Can't be that hard
Dude ive passed 2 and failed the 3rd.
70-291: 4 Hours exam, 40 Questions
You take 3 hours to finish it. You can only get 8 wrong else you fail. Now that is f**king great!
Two problems..
1. Rewrite asks another R700 with no vaseline provided
2. MCSE is 8 exams.
You fail about 4 and rewrite about 4 add 4 you passed and you looking at R8400
Cyghost dude ive got Testking, ActualTests,CertKing ive got .exe installer QnA, ive got the **MICROSOFT** review software suite and they all help precisely a round figure of fuckall.
Apologies for language but this system is pathetic.
Oh not to mention, even with these qualifications you still struggle to find a job.
sigh :(
=_sNaKe_=
31 Jul 2006, 14:02
I was talking about IT. Not multimedia. Thats not IT. -_-
Many of the principles are the same. MM's much more closely aligned to IT than to, say, Medical school.
Karnaugh
31 Jul 2006, 15:08
What? You just draw stuff.
=_sNaKe_=
31 Jul 2006, 15:14
Nope. I can draw and program. And no, I don't want a medal.
Hi Guys.
For those of you that are interested, an exciting field to go into is Networking. Specifically Cisco networking. CCNA is R11k at CPUT and it is a very rewarding course and there are quite a few jobs available for it. Although i would recommend going overseas as the pay is much better.
i am currently doing my CCNP (Cisco Certified Network Professional) and I can tell u it is pretty hard. A hell of a lot of studying and with the LAN's and Studies, i have almost no time for a social Life. But if u go to the UK with CCNP, average salary is R400k a year. Just think about that for a moment! Sounds good, doesn't it.
Networking has a bright future ahead. And it is so much less boring than Coding Fsking VB or C#.
my 2c
Regards
Clearly you've been coding in the wrong languages then ;).
nah.. I just hate sitting in front of a computer all day debugging. its nice and stuff when you solve something u been struggling with. But I find it too boring. network troubleshooting, now that is a lot more interesting :)
GM<Jaymac>MF
01 Aug 2006, 00:00
But if u go to the UK with CCNP, average salary is R400k a year. Just think about that for a moment! Sounds good, doesn't it.
Ye, but living in England is almost twice the cost of living in South Africa. Literally, it's that expensive there man! Plus I assume you've converted that salary straight from pounds into rands... which is kind of arbitrary. Converting using a measure which takes into consideration the cost of living there, you would proably only get about R190k
I just dig sunny SA! ;) Cost of living here is about 68% the cost of living in New York, which is about 90% the cost of living in London.
Karnaugh
01 Aug 2006, 06:42
yeah, 40K pounds per anum is actualy really mediocore in the UK. Also, CCIE is where the real money is, then you're talking 7 figures etc.
Plus the IT sector in the UK is curently more saturated then locally, the goverment is actually reporting skills shortages here. Try and get at least 2 years experiance before venturing to the UK unless you have a job waiting. WA in Aus is also worth a look as you can also apply for a work VISA with most of the popular IT certifications as those skills are also in demand there. But pay wise as explained above dont expect that your lifestyle is going to be much different from here its just more about getting out and seeing the world then anything else. Everybody starts n00b.
I studied at CTI... the only benefit I had of going there in my time was one of the Teachers was hot. It got boring after she left...
But I agree wit xumwun - its was a waste of time... I landed up not needing to study for a lot of the exams because it included stuff I learned when I was in std 6... eons ago.
The key to being successful in I.T. I reckon is every day use and practice of that you wish to be good at. 80% of my knowledge has been from getting the system on my lap - and experimenting. Reading up on the net, and my personal favourite - fixing my buddies machines so we can play UT :)
Geez, is everyone in IT these days?
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